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Old 06-25-2008, 08:32 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't need to tell you how to use your units. That's something you need to work out for yourself. I'm telling you how to use your opponents moves to further your own goals.
Yeah, I liked that. It was more strategy than unit use is what I was commending
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:08 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The beauty of the NJ rush is that it can easily camp or trap depending on your opponents set. Its in a great position to quickly attack or fold in on itself. The other two sections are sub-strategies IMO. They help you either trap or camp.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:23 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The beauty of the NJ rush is that it can easily camp or trap depending on your opponents set. Its in a great position to quickly attack or fold in on itself. The other two sections are sub-strategies IMO. They help you either trap or camp.
Not entirely. Baiting is not dependant upon camping for example. You can bait from a Trapping position too. If you push on a defensive opponent then offer a unit as a sacrifice to lure them into opening a hole for you for example. To a degree there are two main categorys of going to the enemy and letting the enemy come to you with more detailed strategems falling into either one of these categories but some more complex tactics will often involve both going to the enemy and holding off the enemy units going for you simultaneously.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:29 PM   #34 (permalink)
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What does that have to do with my post? I never said that you couldn't bait from an offensive position.

Ex: Mud is hurt.. fall back so that if they want the kill they have to send their own into your frost range. This not only gives you their mud but takes another unit away from their defensive position. I do this quite often actually. =p
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What does that have to do with my post? I never said that you couldn't bait from an offensive position.
I was saying that you were wrong. Some help you trap AND camp. :P
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Oh no.. I totally agree with that. Most of the time I begin camping with whatever set I use. And slowly moved towards trapping once my defense is established.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:07 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I love baiting I do it all the time when I play use the Mask rush. They think the beast rider is the strongest unit in the world and go after it like it's my scout. Once they get to my frost it's peanut butter frosty time!!
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That was a nice read there Xiahou Dun. Hopefully you come up with some more to add on there
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