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Old 11-21-2007, 11:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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First of all, let me put this clear:

This idea has come to me because of the constant fighting between clans about activating their accounts and the bunch of findings about boosting players on this server.

This new Ranking System will avoid any bad activity by itself, and the in-game moderators will detect anything wrong immediately.


Aspects to Avoid:

- Boosting
- Accounts Activation
- Multiple Accounts from the same user /player appearing on this ranking system.


Details of each aspect to consider:

Breaking Rules:¤
Creates Conflicts between clans:¤


¤Boosting: Is the Taking or Giving of Free Stats to, the same account(s) repeatedly, the owner of multiple account(s) repeatedly, to account(s) you have access to or to yourself on some other account(s).


¤Accounts Activation: Is playing a rated fight without gaining ot losing any stat from it. (Just to appear on the Top Rankings).

In both cases, it makes use of a dual screen from the same IP address, or makes use of the help of an accomplice from a different IP address.

Multiple Accounts from the same user/player or same IP.

An example:

Let's say that i have 10 accounts, and those accounts are all of them 1600+. So im taking 10 places of the 100 possible places for the best players, wich seems too unfair for the most of the users of the game.

The Top Rankings List should be integrated for the players with more skills and more activity on each week.

How to avoid each aspect:

Boosting:

Each and every top player's activity will be watched for the in-game moderators every week vía IP adress. ( The moderators have the chance to see your ip and your opponent's ip everytime you get in a match).

Otherwise......:

In the top rankings page on each place there will be a symbol, wich will be representing the percentage of the player's activity. The symbols will be increasing each week according to your activity(3 times is the maximum quantity that is allowed, wich means that the account is been active more than 3 weeks) So every 3 week is enought time to see , who stills here and who does not. Just Like this:

= Wich means that the stats of the player have not changed during a week
+ Wich means that the stats of the player have increased during a week
- Wich means that stats of the player have decreased during a week

Week 1
Rank Clan Name Rating
1.- Noob Clan Mr. Y 1800 =
2.- Noobiest Clan Mr. X 1725 -
3.- The Clan Bonehead 1718 +

Week 2
Rank Clan Name Rating
1.-Noob Clan Mr. Y 1800 = =
2.-Noobiest Clan Mr. X 1750 +
3.-The Clan Bonehead 1730 ++

Week 3
Rank Clan Name Rating
1.-Noob Clan Mr. Y 1800 === ¤ Inactive
2.-The Clan Bonehead 1760+++ ¤ probably boosting
3.-Noobiest Clan Mr. X 1748 -

¤Bonehead has been suspected for boosting because:
A) He never accepts challenges from good and active players
B) His stats are always increasing, they never fall down.

Solution:

Each and every forumer will have to declare the name of all of their accounts, but just to the in-game moderators( Via PM). So if they play even just 1 match against their own accounts, the user will need to reset immediately.
If they are not forumers, the ip will release their secrets .

Shared accounts: All the owners of these accounts will have to accept if they really use the accounts . If dont , once again In-game moderators + IP = Order.

Accounts Activation:

It will not be possible because there is a longer period for the accounts to get into real activity, to be exact 3 weeks. I refer to real activity to each user / account or player will increase or decrease at least 1 stat for three weeks, if not, the system puts as inactive.

*This increases the degree of difficulty for the user to be maintained and active within real competition.

Multiple Accounts from the same user on the top rankings:

Posittive Aspects:
It gives more reputation for the owner of those accounts into the community of the server.
It gives more reputation for the clan of the owner into the community of the server.

Negative Aspects:
The owner of the higer ranked accounts deals with more percentage of space on the board.... see what is next.....
It could be the reason of why some users needs to boost, lets call this jealousy, anger, lack of competitiveness, etc..

Solution:

This new system will only take the highest ranked stat of all the accounts.Averaging of its total number of accounts between them.

Note: Dont be confused.........This new number will be based on the amount of stats of each account.

How is this going to work?:

Example:

I have 5 accounts and these are their stats:

Luzbel1: 1658
Luzbel2: 1610
Luzbel3: 1554
Luzbel4: 1498
Luzbel5: 1690

So 1658+1610+1554+1498+1690/5=1602 wich represents the level and skill that i really have, according to what i have done in all my accounts.

So the average is: 1602, but since the account does not have the same name than in the forums ,it will appear as Luzbel average: 1602 simple as that, thanks to the data uploaded to the server.

Posittive Aspects:

It would represent the real skill of the players at the competition.

It would promote the necessary support to the server to make gold accounts, because if you are not active and your grey gets wiped, it will be harder than before to get the ranked place.
I mean each and every one need to be active in all the ways and at all the time.

It would promote the minor quantity of grey accounts creation, because just imagine if you have 10 greys, you will need to play on all of them all the time wich could get you crazy, plus with a lower quantity of temporaly accounts, the server gives 100%, wich means less updates, no more lag, and less timer's misstakes.Why? the data system would be just perfect and running, without all that extra info.

No more fights about accounts activation.


Negative Aspects:

No more 10 accounts for one single player on the boards.


Basicaly all about this new system , is about order, a safer server and more competition for everyone.

So, if is there a question about this system send me a pm , i will be happy to explain everything.




















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Old 11-21-2007, 11:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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No offence mate, but why so small, I started reading it but gave up. Try writing a bit bigger if its gonna be soooo long please.
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No offence mate, but why so small, I started reading it but gave up. Try writing a bit bigger if its gonna be soooo long please.
I did it that way to deal with less kb
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Well, I have chosen the largest size and read all the text.
Good Idea, but:
  1. I don't think Judge will be happy if they are deprived of all those dead accounts that give them 1st place instead of 3-4th place in the Top 100 List.
  2. I don't think Mask will be happy because he is the playing force of the best part of SI's Grey accounts and he cannot support them all active in your system.
I would be glad to be mistaken in those statements above...
But I can assure you, that CK is ready to accept any system that gives more transparency to the real situation in the both aspects: boosting control and activity control.
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Good Idea, but:
  1. I don't think Judge will be happy if they are deprived of all those dead accounts that give them 1st place instead of 3-4th place in the Top 100 List.
  2. I don't think Mask will be happy because he is the playing force of the best part of SI's Grey accounts and he cannot support them all active in your system.
I would be glad to be mistaken in those statements above...
But I can assure you, that CK is ready to accept any system that gives more transparency to the real situation in the both aspects: boosting control and activity control.
Ok...

1.- Actually it is all sides protected, because if you a look at the average of their members , i think it would be the best because luca´s accounts are all of them 1800 or 1900+, so if you add darkness and tay also flash and a few others it would not affect all the clan's position.

Only if they keep luca's accounts on the same average level, that would put him as inactive, so you know what would happen. ( one of their members would have to play on luca's accounts to keep them alive) im bad .


2.-Not necessary, as you know, all the grey accounts wipes after 21 days or so, wich is the same time to put in real activity the ranked accounts, it only would change if he does not play rated matches to gain 1 stat or lose 1 stat, but it wont get wiped, just loggin in once in 3 weeks is enought.

Is not necessary to play on all of them, it is enought gaining an equal percentage of stats on 1 account for all the others. Or:

If you have 5 greys, you have to gain or lose 5 stats on 1 account, and keep the others alive ( dont get wiped ) for ranking props.......

Also, if you want to let 4 die in those 3 weeks, your average percentage will increase at the same level than the account wich stills alive, because now you just have 1|||....... 100% productive ^.^

Perhaps, this is an average percentage, it forces you to play and risk your stats to have more chances to get a better place on the rankings.

Also for a possible booster:

If the user boosts all his accounts to increase just 1 account's stats, it will be used against him, all the average will fall down......

This means, that he is gonna be forced to play and risk his boosted stats against the real players.


Golds:

If someone retires or takes a brake, if he returns.......he will need to resk everything to appear on the board. There will be allways a movement of stats on the board, +1 or -1 every 3 weeks.


Greys

If the ranked player doesnt play a rated fight without losing or gaining at least 1 stat, it wont get wiped, just will be inactive on the board, but could be active to keep the account alive, as we all keep them like now.


For the server

The current amount of data is too much heavy, because all of us have made a lot of jokes accounts, practice accounts, all of them just temporaly, wich gives the server an insane info data base, so thats why there is a lot f lag, thats why there is a lot timer's misstakes, thats why sometimes the drops takes too much time, some other times less than others, basicaly:


More competition, Less quantity, better quality.
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You should only make one account fromsomeone who has left like Luca. Mask and Cloud should have their accounts in because they're active.
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You should only make one account fromsomeone who has left like Luca. Mask and Cloud should have their accounts in because they're active.

Thats the meaning......

It takes just 1 name instead of 10.

If he retired, his average will be the same for all his history.
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Well, That's good then.
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I don't like the current account activations that go on. As you pointed out, in some cases it is the exact princibles as boosting - playing friends who will surrender. Otherwise, I think the current rating system is fine.
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