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Old 05-14-2008, 03:27 AM   #7901 (permalink)
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I dont see how he can't get a scoring titled as being a Point Guard, which usually plays SG, too.

He averaged 29.3 points in the 05-06 season. Be real.
Yeah, the year Kobe got 35 ppg, he had no chance that season, Kobe was on fire.

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Yeah, and Gilbert Arenas didn't have good handles when he came into the league. And so he WORKED ON IT.

Just like LeBron is supposed to be doing with his jump shot.
But his jump shot is actually WORSE than last year.

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Michael Jordan wasn't a great shooter in his first 5-6 years and people say he's the best of all time. He drove alot of the time, hell, more than that, and everyone is justing hating on LeBron.
The only reason people hate is because he is overated.

I mean for the love of god, DIGID was trying to say he shoots over 40% from the field minus the paint before I showed him his shot chart. That's easily overated.

Oh, and Jordan was always a decent shooter, he just didn't extend to the three point line until late in his career.


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Gilbert Arenas is still a very poor ball-handler and not a great play-maker. I don't think Arenas should play point guard.
What? How is he not a good ball handler?
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:50 AM   #7902 (permalink)
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I mean for the love of god, DIGID was trying to say he shoots over 40% from the field minus the paint before I showed him his shot chart. That's easily overated.
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:51 AM   #7903 (permalink)
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Yeah, but I know that his first 2 games were AWFUL, HORRENDUS, and even worse things that I'm not allowed to say here.

However, in game 3, he was 60% from outside the arc, which isn't bad, though his inside was awful because of double teams, of which he passed out of most of the time to his hot role players.

West is 10x better than Gibson. He can actually create off the dribble, and Szczerbiak is also 10x better than Gibson, he's an awesome 3 point shooter.
Daniel Gibson is definitely the best Cleveland Cavalier shooter.

Devin Brown and Delonte West can create. Wally Szczerbiak and Gibson are both great shooters, with Gibson being better but less dynamic.

Who's the better passer out of West and Gibson?

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Not a good ball handler? Well depends on how you look at it. Sure, he is a point guard so he handles the ball a lot, causing to a lot of turnovers especially when the defense pressures you. But face it, he is better off playing the shooting guard.
Gilbert Arenas would handle the ball all the time whatever position he's supposed to play. He's sloppy and not very good at making plays.

He should play shooting guard and let Antonio Daniels run the point. DeShawn Stevenson should be benched.

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Yeah, the year Kobe got 35 ppg, he had no chance that season, Kobe was on fire.

But his jump shot is actually WORSE than last year.

The only reason people hate is because he is overated.

I mean for the love of god, DIGID was trying to say he shoots over 40% from the field minus the paint before I showed him his shot chart. That's easily overated.

Oh, and Jordan was always a decent shooter, he just didn't extend to the three point line until late in his career.

What? How is he not a good ball handler?
That was the year Kobe Bryant should have been MVP.

LeBron James' jump shot has improved. If he's shooting worse, it's because of defense. He makes more open shots than before.

I never said he shot that high of a percentage outside of the paint. To be the best dominant scorer and a premiere passer, rebounder, and defender, yet to be undervalued makes James underrated.

Arenas definitely isn't a good ball handler, since when handling the ball he turns it over ridiculously often.
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:52 AM   #7904 (permalink)
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His mistake? He was right.

LeBron is overated.

It's not his fault the Refs are on Lebron's jock.


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LeBron James' jump shot has improved.
No it hasn't

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I never said he shot that high of a percentage outside of the paint. To be the best dominant scorer and a premiere passer, rebounder, and defender, yet to be undervalued makes James underrated.
You said he makes around 41% of his shots outside of the paint, which was WAY off. You also tried to say he has as good of a shot as kobe, which is laughable.

The fact you think he's underated is laughable.

In fact, people like you saying he's underated is part of what makes him overated.

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Arenas definitely is a good ball handler.
*fixed*

Oh, and by your logic, Steve Nash has horrible handling, since he turns the ball over so much.

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Old 05-14-2008, 02:27 PM   #7905 (permalink)
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Funny how if someone protects a player on these forums, they get attacked.
You feel like you're being attacked? Lol

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Yeah, and Gilbert Arenas didn't have good handles when he came into the league. And so he WORKED ON IT.

Just like LeBron is supposed to be doing with his jump shot.

Michael Jordan wasn't a great shooter in his first 5-6 years and people say he's the best of all time. He drove alot of the time, hell, more than that, and everyone is justing hating on LeBron.
Yeaahhh.. which makes him a better ball player.

And is doing a horrible job at it.

Jordan was always a great shooter.. And he could drive even when the refs weren't throwing calls at him. I can't help but hate on something that is so over-rated and such.

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I don't think anybody makes every shot all the time and there aren't distinctive patterns of time for most shooters.

Gilbert Arenas is still a very poor ball-handler and not a great play-maker. I don't think Arenas should play point guard.
But Arenas makes more shots for longer periods of time.

Arenas has great handles.. and can make plays. Did you not watch the last Boston vs. Washington game after Arenas came back? He was healthy that game and made a lot of plays.

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It's amazing how people are so quick to put down a player and then compare him to someone that's not even in the same position or playing style as the other.
I was more or less joking around.. Lolz.

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Old 05-14-2008, 09:50 PM   #7907 (permalink)
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Yeaahhh.. which makes him a better ball player.

And is doing a horrible job at it.

Jordan was always a great shooter.. And he could drive even when the refs weren't throwing calls at him. I can't help but hate on something that is so over-rated and such.
He wasn't ALWAYS a great shooter.



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How was he right? LeBron was killing him, and if he was so overrated how can he beat the Wizards three years in a row?

Zz. I didn't say that in what you quoted for what I "supposedly" said about 5 posts back.

DIGID said that. Get your stuff right.
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Naw. That's just what happens in general.




He wasn't ALWAYS a great shooter.





How was he right? LeBron was killing him, and if he was so overrated how can he beat the Wizards three years in a row?

TELL HIM BOSS!
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Delonte's shot right there was crisp.

Cleveland up 5 now after KG hit a mid jumper.
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Delonte's shot right there was crisp.

Cleveland up 5 now after KG hit a mid jumper.
It's a close game. Let's hope Celtics don't mess up in the fourth quarter.
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