American Issues: Gun Control

ThyMother · 11-14-2007, 09:15 PM

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Only post when you have something to say
If you want to respond to a post that's not directly above yours, quote it.
Post smart, have fun.

Anyway...

A well regulated militia being necessary for the welfare of the state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed

a) The 2nd Amendment is out of date. When it was made, muskets were the only form of firearm and the United States was fighting for its right to exist. We don't need any musket toting militias running around extracting vigilante justice anymore, we have an effecient legal system. Free access to guns breeds crime and allows unstable individuals to more easily take out their anger on the world around them. Only give out guns to the police, and implant guns with RFID chips to know where they are at all times. Persons wishing to buy a gun should have to undergo a background check.

b) Regardless of whether the amendment is out of date, the Constitution is the Constitution. As of right now, it is what is is and we can't change it. If people want to walk into a store and buy any gun, they can. Americans should be able to protect their lives and those of their loved ones from dangerous individuals. These individuals are going to get a gun no matter what, and the best way to stop them isn't to rely on a police force. At a certain point action needs to be taken, and allowing Americans to buy guns gives them the freedom to take that action.

c) Shotguns and other nonconcealable weapons aren't a problem. The problem, rather, is handguns and other concealable weapons. America isn't as safe a place of someone walking down the street could have a handgun in their pocket ready to start firing away. You can't hide an assault rifle/shotgun/whatever. If someone has one of those they can't keep in their pocket, people know to get out of the way. But access to concealable weapons is unsafe as any crackpot could get one and start shooting up the street. This is evidenced by school shootings around the country. Concealable weapons should be outlawed unless you undergo a background check and register it, nonconcealable weapons should be able to be bought in a store.

As you may have guessed, the above views are various stances on gun control. These aren't all of the stances, nor are these stances complete. Most of the issues America is facing today--indeed all of them, all the time--are much more complex than one forum posts. That's why they're issues instead of bumps in the road of nationhood. The goal of this thread is to have an intelligent, thoughtful discussion. I didn't see any threads about gun control on the first page or so of these forums, so I decided to make one. Other issues may soon follow, who knows?

Anywho, discuss your stance and why, follow the above rules.

-ThyMother

Dragon Of Death · 11-14-2007, 09:19 PM

Guns keep the British from waltzing into our homeland and overthrowing Bush.

pils · 11-14-2007, 09:24 PM

Get your facts straight and I will take your "rules" and threads seriously... Until then there is no point in even reading past point B.

Legendary Drow · 11-14-2007, 09:33 PM

If I'm not mistaken a similar thread was made by Girshwin before.

Phoenix · 11-14-2007, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragon Of Death

Guns keep the British from waltzing into our homeland and overthrowing Bush.

Oh I like that

ThyMother · 11-15-2007, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Drow

If I'm not mistaken a similar thread was made by Girshwin before.

Oh, my bad sorry.

S3RO · 11-15-2007, 07:56 PM

I think we should outlaw all forms of weapons. Including knives for food, because they can be used to kill someone. Same with crowbars, axes, machates etc...

Everything should have to be made out of a replacement plastic material that is less dangerous.

Legendary Drow · 11-15-2007, 08:03 PM

Don't forget to outlaw forks and spoons as well. Forks can be used to stab someone and spoons can be used to fling things...

sixers · 11-15-2007, 08:17 PM

And we can't have plastic spoons, that's a chocking hazard to small children.

Legendary Drow · 11-15-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixers

And we can't have plastic spoons, that's a chocking hazard to small children.

*choking

Ha, I beat Phoenix.

11-14-2007, 09:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
ThyMother WWJDFTW Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York, NY Posts: 130	American Issues: Gun Control Rules No flaming Only post when you have something to say If you want to respond to a post that's not directly above yours, quote it. Post smart, have fun. Anyway... A well regulated militia being necessary for the welfare of the state, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed a) The 2nd Amendment is out of date. When it was made, muskets were the only form of firearm and the United States was fighting for its right to exist. We don't need any musket toting militias running around extracting vigilante justice anymore, we have an effecient legal system. Free access to guns breeds crime and allows unstable individuals to more easily take out their anger on the world around them. Only give out guns to the police, and implant guns with RFID chips to know where they are at all times. Persons wishing to buy a gun should have to undergo a background check. b) Regardless of whether the amendment is out of date, the Constitution is the Constitution. As of right now, it is what is is and we can't change it. If people want to walk into a store and buy any gun, they can. Americans should be able to protect their lives and those of their loved ones from dangerous individuals. These individuals are going to get a gun no matter what, and the best way to stop them isn't to rely on a police force. At a certain point action needs to be taken, and allowing Americans to buy guns gives them the freedom to take that action. c) Shotguns and other nonconcealable weapons aren't a problem. The problem, rather, is handguns and other concealable weapons. America isn't as safe a place of someone walking down the street could have a handgun in their pocket ready to start firing away. You can't hide an assault rifle/shotgun/whatever. If someone has one of those they can't keep in their pocket, people know to get out of the way. But access to concealable weapons is unsafe as any crackpot could get one and start shooting up the street. This is evidenced by school shootings around the country. Concealable weapons should be outlawed unless you undergo a background check and register it, nonconcealable weapons should be able to be bought in a store. As you may have guessed, the above views are various stances on gun control. These aren't all of the stances, nor are these stances complete. Most of the issues America is facing today--indeed all of them, all the time--are much more complex than one forum posts. That's why they're issues instead of bumps in the road of nationhood. The goal of this thread is to have an intelligent, thoughtful discussion. I didn't see any threads about gun control on the first page or so of these forums, so I decided to make one. Other issues may soon follow, who knows? Anywho, discuss your stance and why, follow the above rules. -ThyMother __________________ I am JerryPowell in game. http://www.legendsforums.com/create-...tml#post559051 ^^Hanged Man, my first unit. Critiscm is welcome, just go to the above thread. Thanks.

11-14-2007, 09:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
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11-14-2007, 09:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
pils Mmm well trimmed... cat Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: k-town WI Posts: 5,515	Get your facts straight and I will take your "rules" and threads seriously... Until then there is no point in even reading past point B. __________________ ~~~ Best Neg Ever ~~~ Good Ole' Bots ~~~ .:Legends Graphics Guru:.

11-14-2007, 09:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Legendary Drow LF Retiree Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: TE, where all the tao pwntars reside Posts: 19,227	If I'm not mistaken a similar thread was made by Girshwin before. __________________ Biggest Spammer/Rep Whore 2007 Go into battle with one goal....DESTROY EVERYTHING! Treachery. Deceit. Death. This is the Drow way.

11-15-2007, 07:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
S3RO Winds of Change Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 9,097	I think we should outlaw all forms of weapons. Including knives for food, because they can be used to kill someone. Same with crowbars, axes, machates etc... Everything should have to be made out of a replacement plastic material that is less dangerous. __________________ It only takes one candle to light the world

11-15-2007, 08:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Legendary Drow LF Retiree Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: TE, where all the tao pwntars reside Posts: 19,227	Don't forget to outlaw forks and spoons as well. Forks can be used to stab someone and spoons can be used to fling things... __________________ Biggest Spammer/Rep Whore 2007 Go into battle with one goal....DESTROY EVERYTHING! Treachery. Deceit. Death. This is the Drow way.

11-15-2007, 08:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
sixers lalalalalala Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: drunk on dreams Posts: 6,640	And we can't have plastic spoons, that's a chocking hazard to small children. __________________ help me kill my time

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