Golem Tamer

†ormen† · 05-04-2007, 06:12 PM

Name: Golem Tamer
HP: 38
Armor: --
Bllocking: --
Movement: 2
Power: -- (focus)
Range: 1 space on each side of him
Recovery: 3

Attack Pattern: all spaces around it like assassin.
Attack Effect: Give GA 1 extra range and +2 power, makes FG movement 3, makes SG movement 3, gives MG +2 power (mudquake remains the same)

pros: makes golems move much stronger, good to mix with a turtle (puting it in the center of the SG's attack will allow you to use the golem tamers affect on 3 golems and stone golem)
cons: no armor, no blocking.

I thought about this unit for hours before posting it, and i think its better than all my other ones. and if you think its not balancd please tell me how to fix it instead of telling me
"its unbalanced."

Bloody-Killer · 05-04-2007, 06:21 PM

im confused

FinalFantasy7Cloud · 05-04-2007, 07:14 PM

Nice idea, but I don't think you're allowed to make units that decrease the wait time of other units. I don't know that for sure, I must of heard it somewhere.

| Red Devil | · 05-04-2007, 07:42 PM

there's not much point in using it - a 1 turn wait reduction on golems is basically good vs frost sets and thats about it, since you're sacrificing a unit just to reduce wait by one....underpowered

FinalFantasy7Cloud · 05-04-2007, 08:05 PM

It has been edited now. I will let a pro look at it. I'm not that good at rating units.

Taiyoh · 05-04-2007, 08:37 PM

i think its very balanced but i really dont like that idea sorry. I think it could change the game to much and i like the game like it is now

†ormen† · 05-04-2007, 08:54 PM

I edited everything so look at it again!!!

| Red Devil | · 05-04-2007, 09:04 PM

now it is overpowered - well in a way its also useless being on its own and a focus ability - but going on the abilities it passes out it can be very powerful even if by itself its completely useless and i wouldn't even think of using it

seed decreased the GA range for a reason, attacks shouldn't be able to be raised (net attack stays the same) - also 3 movement frost golem and 20 power mud would make them overpowerful respectively (mud punch is meant to be 20 so it can't 2 hit witch and pyro with heal) - and 1 additional movement on a frost can make it super strong

its best most of the time to not try to modify existing units stats, as defense and attack (sort of - the DT and DSM only share attack, they do not add any attack that is not first subtracted by the dragon) have been the only stats which one unit affects another's (and itself)

Taiyoh · 05-04-2007, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by | Red Devil |

now it is overpowered

seed decreased the GA range for a reason, attacks shouldn't be able to be raised (net attack stays the same) - also 3 movement frost golem and 20 power mud would make them overpowerful respectively (mud punch is meant to be 20 so it can't 2 hit witch and pyro with heal) - and 1 additional movement on a frost can make it super strong

its best most of the time to not try to modify existing units stats, as defense and attack (sort of - the DT and DSM only share attack, they do not add any attack that is not first subtracted by the dragon) have been the only stats which one unit affects another's (and itself)

Seed is very smart

.

Is this unit good for u?

Pile X · 05-04-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by | Red Devil |

now it is overpowered - well in a way its also useless being on its own and a focus ability - but going on the abilities it passes out it can be very powerful even if by itself its completely useless and i wouldn't even think of using it

seed decreased the GA range for a reason, attacks shouldn't be able to be raised (net attack stays the same) - also 3 movement frost golem and 20 power mud would make them overpowerful respectively (mud punch is meant to be 20 so it can't 2 hit witch and pyro with heal) - and 1 additional movement on a frost can make it super strong

its best most of the time to not try to modify existing units stats, as defense and attack (sort of - the DT and DSM only share attack, they do not add any attack that is not first subtracted by the dragon) have been the only stats which one unit affects another's (and itself)

*ahem* yes the mud golem can KO a witch with two melees with healing in between them..

05-04-2007, 06:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
†ormen† Super Squirrel Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 163	Golem Tamer Name: Golem Tamer HP: 38 Armor: -- Bllocking: -- Movement: 2 Power: -- (focus) Range: 1 space on each side of him Recovery: 3 Attack Pattern: all spaces around it like assassin. Attack Effect: Give GA 1 extra range and +2 power, makes FG movement 3, makes SG movement 3, gives MG +2 power (mudquake remains the same) pros: makes golems move much stronger, good to mix with a turtle (puting it in the center of the SG's attack will allow you to use the golem tamers affect on 3 golems and stone golem) cons: no armor, no blocking. I thought about this unit for hours before posting it, and i think its better than all my other ones. and if you think its not balancd please tell me how to fix it instead of telling me "its unbalanced." Last edited by †ormen†; 05-04-2007 at 07:45 PM.

05-04-2007, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
FinalFantasy7Cloud Strategic Insomnipwners! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: England! Posts: 5,484	Nice idea, but I don't think you're allowed to make units that decrease the wait time of other units. I don't know that for sure, I must of heard it somewhere. __________________ rofl lol Gifts drow \| mayo \| chris \| Gypsy \| c4nt \| Flash \| ])rag ])rag

05-04-2007, 07:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
\| Red Devil \| The Red Grey Turkey Hero Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Look Behind You... Posts: 10,392	there's not much point in using it - a 1 turn wait reduction on golems is basically good vs frost sets and thats about it, since you're sacrificing a unit just to reduce wait by one....underpowered __________________ .. S3R0SIG

05-04-2007, 08:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
FinalFantasy7Cloud Strategic Insomnipwners! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: England! Posts: 5,484	It has been edited now. I will let a pro look at it. I'm not that good at rating units. __________________ rofl lol Gifts drow \| mayo \| chris \| Gypsy \| c4nt \| Flash \| ])rag ])rag

05-04-2007, 08:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Taiyoh Do not Corner Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Legends Forums Posts: 3,553	i think its very balanced but i really dont like that idea sorry. I think it could change the game to much and i like the game like it is now __________________ Running Naked Through LF since 19/12/07 BRING BACK THE COUNTING THREAD!! Bloodfenzy Sucks pretty badly.

05-04-2007, 06:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bloody-Killer Strategic Insomniacs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,319	im confused

05-04-2007, 08:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
†ormen† Super Squirrel Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 163	*I edited everything so look at it again!!!* __________________ .

05-04-2007, 09:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
\| Red Devil \| The Red Grey Turkey Hero Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Look Behind You... Posts: 10,392	now it is overpowered - well in a way its also useless being on its own and a focus ability - but going on the abilities it passes out it can be very powerful even if by itself its completely useless and i wouldn't even think of using it seed decreased the GA range for a reason, attacks shouldn't be able to be raised (net attack stays the same) - also 3 movement frost golem and 20 power mud would make them overpowerful respectively (mud punch is meant to be 20 so it can't 2 hit witch and pyro with heal) - and 1 additional movement on a frost can make it super strong its best most of the time to not try to modify existing units stats, as defense and attack (sort of - the DT and DSM only share attack, they do not add any attack that is not first subtracted by the dragon) have been the only stats which one unit affects another's (and itself) __________________ .. S3R0SIG

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