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Old 05-16-2008, 11:45 AM   #5591 (permalink)
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Jus read this simple words, if you dont are a mod, So just shut up and dont talk about Boost ok?.

Is really unfair when ppl is acused of boost without enough proofs, but oh well...
You're an idiot.
You do not need a MOD to call someone a booster or find one out.
Seriously shut up.

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I find it quite annoying to see this happen. People accused/Put on the list of the boosters. Without given any idea from the Modship themselves why they are.

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Old 05-16-2008, 11:53 AM   #5592 (permalink)
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Oh no, Darkness has a single suspicious game! I'm sure I wont find any of those in any CK log.

Well first let's be clear why The Prophet was added, it's no secret certain CK leaders time after time have been involved with booster, whether it was the fake CK clan the boosting and using IROK kick as an excuse and of course the good ol' blame everything on the room mate, so we made it perfectly clear they can't play their own accounts, it's simple, not hard to do.

So why was The Prophet added?
The Stratagem=CK Leader(s) with access to The Prophet
Emotion=CK leader(s) with access to The Prophet
**=CK Leader(s) with access to The Prophet

Nine of Cups=CK Leader(s)

http://www.taorankings.com/player.pl?name=Nikoto
Interesting how the only 1600+ grey that Nikoto seemed to ever play happened to be a CK Leader. And you didn't even play the game you say, you say some unknown person got on your account to raise it, lol okay.

Well let's have look at some other games:
http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...&query=Emotion
What is ShadowBone, an 1800+ account in CK, doing playing Emotion, a CK Leader(s) secret account in a 30 second game?

http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...&query=Emotion
Why would Emotion, a CK Leader(s) secret account challenge Angel 17 to a game and play for only 4 minutes before surrendering?

http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...result&query=0
Oh just like Nikoto, the only high grey that McGrible played was Nine of Cups, a CK Leader(s) secret account.

http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...c%9d%20leaders
Oh once again **, a CK leader in disguise, gets on his other account to play a high ranking CK account in very fast games, 3 and 5 minutes. Now I wouldn't say Bobcat is a booster, but he did share his password with one and now I'm no longer sure that account is legitimate.

http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...ype=P&query=.Z
Here's .Z playing **, yet again a CK leader trying to hide his identity
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:47 PM   #5593 (permalink)
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Oh no, Darkness has a single suspicious game! I'm sure I wont find any of those in any CK log.
No he has 4 suspicious games two of which took less than a minute.

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The Stratagem=CK Leader(s) with access to The Prophet
Emotion=CK leader(s) with access to The Prophet
**=CK Leader(s) with access to The Prophet

Nine of Cups=CK Leader(s)
All the further questions are based on those 'CK Leaders'. It is interesting Who is that 'CK Leader'. I have heard from Tay about that first.
And more important: Did the people who played those accounts knew that they played the 'CK Leader' during and/or before their games.
Because if they knew nothing about that, one cannot blame them for those games.

P.S. Just because Nikoto account is mentioned there, I would like to recall that I said in this thread more then a year ago: I stopped playing that account after a pass leakage which happened ~ 1.5 years ago. But that is not any kind of my agreement that some of the people knowing the pass of Nikoto have done something bad on the account. If it would be so, I would expel that account.
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:52 PM   #5594 (permalink)
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No he has 4 suspicious games two of which took less than a minute.
First let's be clear, playing boosters isn't against the rules. I encourage it as for the boosters that don't reset it's the only way to get rid of their stats.

As for Darkness, you're simply mistaken. I created a thread on Kinhofhill on the 15th in the mod lounge. It wasn't until the 23rd that he was added, 2 days after Darkness' 3 game series against him (of which he lost one). He wouldn't of known Kinhofhill was a booster. As for my thread in abuse reports, it was a duplicate I believe M_A_D made after the new ranking sites was realeased, it kept original create date and was also burried in abuse reports hence it not having any replies. Especially when it should of if the new ranking site wasn't released at the time.

Now for the fast game, who knows what happened. Kinhofhill is obviously noob maybe he had turt against rush couldn't win, just left. Or any other of reason, here's Bobcat's account also playing a booster in a quick game:
http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?name=%e5%a4%a9%e6%9c%9d%20leaders&type=P&q uery=Brave%20Soldier
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All the further questions are based on those 'CK Leaders'. It is interesting Who is that 'CK Leader'. I have heard from Tay about that first.
And more important: Did the people who played those accounts knew that they played the 'CK Leader' during and/or before their games.
Because if they knew nothing about that, one cannot blame them for those games
Let's say Shadowbone didn't know Emotion was that CK Leader, which I agree is possible. The CK Leader on Emotion still played and surrendered in 30 seconds giving him free stats. It wouldn't be any difference of me getting on one of my accounts outside of Judge like Wores Recruiter (1700+) and challenging any Judgement member I see (except those I have password to) and giving them free stats. That would still be boosting , just like those CK leaders involved are boosters.
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First let's be clear, playing boosters isn't against the rules. I encourage it as for the boosters that don't reset it's the only way to get rid of their stats.
Yes, playing boosters is not boosting, but only getting easy stats. But everyone knows that boosters are not inclined to play against high-rated players because that will likely get some of their precious boosted stats. So, the question arises how those high-rated people induce boosters to play them.

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As for Darkness, you're simply mistaken. I created a thread on Kinhofhill on the 15th in the mod lounge. It wasn't until the 23rd that he was added, 2 days after Darkness' 3 game series against him (of which he lost one). He wouldn't of known Kinhofhill was a booster. As for my thread in abuse reports, it was a duplicate I believe M_A_D made after the new ranking sites was realeased, it kept original create date and was also burried in abuse reports hence it not having any replies. Especially when it should of if the new ranking site wasn't released at the time.
So, do you have any explanation why kinhofhill has not won a single game after that first game vs. Darkness? Did he lose all his skill suddenly? Or he was taught about his inevitable resetting and started it with Darkness and others?

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Now for the fast game, who knows what happened. Kinhofhill is obviously noob maybe he had turt against rush couldn't win, just left.
How at all Dakness started a game on his 1750+ account against a booster whom he began to reset in 10 minutes afterwards?
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Or any other of reason, here's Bobcat's account also playing a booster in a quick game.
No one can do anything if one's opponent surrenders out of the blue... except of course not playing him again... which SoD seems to think else about looking how he already got one 40+ sec. game vs. kinhofhill to play another one 20+ sec. game 10 minutes before resetting him, wonderfull.

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Let's say Shadowbone didn't know Emotion was that CK Leader, which I agree is possible. The CK Leader on Emotion still played and surrendered in 30 seconds giving him free stats. It wouldn't be any difference of me getting on one of my accounts outside of Judge like Wores Recruiter (1700+) and challenging any Judgement member I see (except those I have password to) and giving them free stats. That would still be boosting , just like those CK leaders involved are boosters.
Again. Who is(are) that mysterious 'CK Leader(s)', does(do) he(they) have a LF account(s)?
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Old 05-16-2008, 01:52 PM   #5596 (permalink)
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not to you

I am talking with admins about that ...
That is really ridiculous having those accounts in the booster list.
So relax buddies.
I would like to hear this from an Admin. so let's wait before coming to any conclusions.

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You don't have to explain your logic if you have none of logic in your posts. Which seems the case here.
That is what we have:
  1. Tay puts some CK accounts on Boosters list whithout any explanation;
  2. SoD comes here to ask us about the reasons why Tay did it?
  3. We answer that we have no clue why he did it and ask SoD about the reasons;
  4. SoD says that he is not a mod, therefore he shouldn't have to explain anything... as though we in CK have a mod to answer his question 2.


... If SoD asks us to guess why some of our accounts were put by Tay on a Boosters list, I'll try to...
The first version: I think the reason is SoD has asked Tay to put them there. Of course it is a mere guess, but who am I to give the explanations? I'm not a mod after all.

The second version: Look at the latest battles of _Alex_: http://www.taorankings.com/player.pl?name=_Alex_
Alex(SoD) has lost three battles to:
  • imchip (NJ)
  • Machiavelli (CK)
  • )_Predator_( (CK)
So, may be that is the reason? BTW, Machiavelli has raised The Prophet to 1900... any connection? And your sig would be a way more honest if it was like that:
SoD Slogan - If you can't beat them, ask Tay to put some of their accounts to the Boosters list instead of
Celestial Knights Slogan- If you can't beat them, play yourself for free stats until you're higher than them.
It is only a guess though. But it was you, who has asked us to guess why...

The third version: there is some booster -- kinhofhill, now look at his history:
4-16-2008 Tay posted the evidence of kinhofhill boosting from Atomic Ant:

Click on the s/s to see that post of Tay.
SoD is a close friend of Tay (He loves Tay as one may read in SoD's siggy)
and hence it is reasonable to suppose that SoD knew about that Tay's post. Now look at kinhofhill log from Brutal's site a day AFTER that Tay's post:


(Click on any of s/s's to see the source)
You can see how SoD had a game with that booster, but (How dear he! ) He has beaten SoD and I may only suppose whether it was a coincidence or SoD had said something to kinhofhill, but from that moment kinhofhill has won no games at all. I would like to stress that SoD knew that kinhofhill is a booster... nevertheless he played a 41 second game (the upper row in the lower s/s) just 3 min after his loss. Then SoD played another 2 games (all victorious of course ) the last one to put his Darkness account back to 1800+. But the most interesting part is as follows. Look at the games of 1st of May 2008. These are resetting games.
One can see darkness2.0 account with 750 stat created for the resetting purpose... But 10 minutes before that 'resetting' he used his _Alex_ account to take some stat of kinhofhill (this game took 23 sec as one can see from the s/s).
So, according to the third version SoD is a booster who asked Tay to put some of CK accounts on Boosters list.
Again. This is a mere guess...

I don't claim that SoD is a booster, let Mods see into that, but it is ridiculous that he comes here to say something about boosting after that.

Summary to SoD: Instead of making that pathetic siggy, you would better pick and choose playing your own games.
I didn't really raise The Prophet completely. I mostly raised it to 1750 and played a game here and there and won the game to get it to 1900.

Nice proof on Darkness.
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Stiv didn't know that and Stiv played SPIDER X only once, when SoD knew and played 5 times... ... but what is more interesting is the whole succession of those games like no more wins to a booster after their first game and resetting with 1750+ account...

Besides, Stiv didn't play the several seconds games with a booster.
I did not know kinofhill was a booster first of all. Second of all, it;s perfectly fine to play boosters, when was it not?

I lost a game against kinhofhill, so why would I do that if I was boosting?

EDIT: For nin about that very short game on _Alex_. This was before the pass leakage. Actually, funny thing Is, I got a s/s of this because I knew this would be brought up by CK when you guys finally would get caught boosting anyways
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3...hofhillxr6.png

I challenged Him for the game, thinking everything was normal ( Just like the recent games I had against him).
He jumped me and said something like " Haha your a noob booster", I replied in I want a game, and I don;t want free stats. Him being the nub that he is he surrendered. How did I know he was going to do this?

He goes into the lobby after this game and yells out his password to the lobby and logs off. I get on Kinofhill and at the time, Tyrant Dragon was also on ( In Judgment) I asked him to get on a 750 account to reset.

We reset the account to somewhere around 1400, using the accounts Darkness2.0, and 2 other accounts that you can easily see if you search Kinhofhill.
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I just love it how they can't admit to boosting, and that they somehow always backfire accusing others of boosting.

NOW ck, HAVE YOU SEEN ENOUGH EVIDENCE? or course not -__- Let's give out warning everyone! yay!
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Oh no, Darkness has a single suspicious game! I'm sure I wont find any of those in any CK log.

Well first let's be clear why The Prophet was added, it's no secret certain CK leaders time after time have been involved with booster, whether it was the fake CK clan the boosting and using IROK kick as an excuse and of course the good ol' blame everything on the room mate, so we made it perfectly clear they can't play their own accounts, it's simple, not hard to do.

So why was The Prophet added?
The Stratagem=CK Leader(s) with access to The Prophet
Emotion=CK leader(s) with access to The Prophet
**=CK Leader(s) with access to The Prophet

Nine of Cups=CK Leader(s)

http://www.taorankings.com/player.pl?name=Nikoto
Interesting how the only 1600+ grey that Nikoto seemed to ever play happened to be a CK Leader. And you didn't even play the game you say, you say some unknown person got on your account to raise it, lol okay.

Well let's have look at some other games:
http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...&query=Emotion
What is ShadowBone, an 1800+ account in CK, doing playing Emotion, a CK Leader(s) secret account in a 30 second game?

http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...&query=Emotion
Why would Emotion, a CK Leader(s) secret account challenge Angel 17 to a game and play for only 4 minutes before surrendering?

http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...result&query=0
Oh just like Nikoto, the only high grey that McGrible played was Nine of Cups, a CK Leader(s) secret account.

http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...c%9d%20leaders
Oh once again **, a CK leader in disguise, gets on his other account to play a high ranking CK account in very fast games, 3 and 5 minutes. Now I wouldn't say Bobcat is a booster, but he did share his password with one and now I'm no longer sure that account is legitimate.

http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?n...ype=P&query=.Z
Here's .Z playing **, yet again a CK leader trying to hide his identity
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First let's be clear, playing boosters isn't against the rules. I encourage it as for the boosters that don't reset it's the only way to get rid of their stats.

As for Darkness, you're simply mistaken. I created a thread on Kinhofhill on the 15th in the mod lounge. It wasn't until the 23rd that he was added, 2 days after Darkness' 3 game series against him (of which he lost one). He wouldn't of known Kinhofhill was a booster. As for my thread in abuse reports, it was a duplicate I believe M_A_D made after the new ranking sites was realeased, it kept original create date and was also burried in abuse reports hence it not having any replies. Especially when it should of if the new ranking site wasn't released at the time.

Now for the fast game, who knows what happened. Kinhofhill is obviously noob maybe he had turt against rush couldn't win, just left. Or any other of reason, here's Bobcat's account also playing a booster in a quick game:
http://www.taorankings.com/game.pl?name=%e5%a4%a9%e6%9c%9d%20leaders&type=P&q uery=Brave%20Soldier


Let's say Shadowbone didn't know Emotion was that CK Leader, which I agree is possible. The CK Leader on Emotion still played and surrendered in 30 seconds giving him free stats. It wouldn't be any difference of me getting on one of my accounts outside of Judge like Wores Recruiter (1700+) and challenging any Judgement member I see (except those I have password to) and giving them free stats. That would still be boosting , just like those CK leaders involved are boosters.
How could you be so sure?
Cause yesterday, you told me Emotion = TS and you said Emotion = ragnarth.
But then i told you how different styles ragnarth and Emotion had, and so you said it was Muchieko. You was changing storys on me..
Emotion = a turtlist. Ragnarth and Emotion have two different styles on turt. Rag uses the typical turt, and Emotion uses wierd turts..

Yet again, how could you be so sure Emotion, Nine of Cups, The Stratagem, and ** are Rag/Muchieko?
I mean, i tried to figure that out my selve, ever since i've seen ** and Nine of cups gray.
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