Chanty bug :O

Xiahou Dun · 09-15-2007, 05:42 PM

Search brought up nothing related to Enchantress so.

When your Enchantress has some of your own units paralysed you cannot walk through these units, as you all know. However if you were to move the Chanty the paralysis would be lifted and you should be able to move through these units.

However you cannot. If your chanty has your Knights paralysed for example, when you try to move her you should be able to move through the Knights because as soon as she starts moviong they are unparalysed and she should be able to move past them. It doesn't let you move your chanty through units she has paralysed. You have to move to unfocus, wait then move again. Which is incredibly time consuming and will usually result in the death of your chanty.

Should this be happening?

Flash Demon · 09-15-2007, 05:45 PM

It's the same as the BW "bug". If it happens at the same time, it doesn't change anything. You can move, but the Knight would still be paralyzed until it completes the move which would unfreeze him.

LoSt SouL · 09-15-2007, 05:45 PM

No. I hate when this happens and I need to move her to keep her alive.

Aeroethimetic · 09-15-2007, 05:45 PM

It's the same with the scout being able to hit the barrior ward even if the scout is barriored. Or Golem Ambusher hitting the barrior ward if it was barriored. I think it's just a programming mistake.

Either way, I wouldn't know the answer sorry.

RaXie · 09-15-2007, 05:46 PM

that makes sense flash. At the beginning of the turn it was paralysed so it stays that way till the turn ends. after all, It wasnt gonna move anyway =/

Flash Demon · 09-15-2007, 05:48 PM

Not necessarily the end of the turn. More the end of a movement, so after you move, anything can go through it. For the chanty, though, it can only move, it can't attack something to unfreeze, then move, because it'd only refreeze and end turn.

Xiahou Dun · 09-15-2007, 05:48 PM

No.

Units in focus unfocus at the beginning of a move not the end.

| Red Devil | · 09-15-2007, 05:50 PM

The way seed programmed the game, any actions that happen "between commands" is counted as it happens at the exact same moment, and ANY status conditions are NOT removed until the automated motion for that action is finished. (aka until you get the boxes to do the next motion or the turn ends)

it happens "at the exact same time" even though the game shows visually that the paralysis disappears before the chanty wants to move - the selection process occurs BEFORE they are un-paralyzed

YES they always unparalyze at the beginning of the move, but the selection process for the move occurs before the paralysis is undone - and thus its still there for the duration of that selection

Flash Demon · 09-15-2007, 05:50 PM

They appear to unfocus. However, that's only because the animation of the focused chanty needs to be undone so it can move. The focus stays until the end of SOMETHING being done.

Xiahou Dun · 09-15-2007, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash Demon

They appear to unfocus. However, that's only because the animation of the focused chanty needs to be undone so it can move. The focus stays until the end of SOMETHING being done.

That's just stupid though.

I've done something not many people do. I read the rules. They agree with me.

It expressly says

When it receives a new command. Not after a command has been carried out. But the instant you click focus is gone.

09-15-2007, 05:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Xiahou Dun The voice of (t)reason Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: England Somerset Taunton Posts: 7,413	Chanty bug :O Search brought up nothing related to Enchantress so. When your Enchantress has some of your own units paralysed you cannot walk through these units, as you all know. However if you were to move the Chanty the paralysis would be lifted and you should be able to move through these units. However you cannot. If your chanty has your Knights paralysed for example, when you try to move her you should be able to move through the Knights because as soon as she starts moviong they are unparalysed and she should be able to move past them. It doesn't let you move your chanty through units she has paralysed. You have to move to unfocus, wait then move again. Which is incredibly time consuming and will usually result in the death of your chanty. Should this be happening? __________________ Cold as ice cream, but still as sweet.

09-15-2007, 05:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Flash Demon LF Mod + President Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 12,390	It's the same as the BW "bug". If it happens at the same time, it doesn't change anything. You can move, but the Knight would still be paralyzed until it completes the move which would unfreeze him. __________________

09-15-2007, 05:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Aeroethimetic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,638	It's the same with the scout being able to hit the barrior ward even if the scout is barriored. Or Golem Ambusher hitting the barrior ward if it was barriored. I think it's just a programming mistake. Either way, I wouldn't know the answer sorry. __________________

09-15-2007, 05:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
RaXie Penguin In A Can Join Date: May 2007 Location: over there points Posts: 1,759	that makes sense flash. At the beginning of the turn it was paralysed so it stays that way till the turn ends. after all, It wasnt gonna move anyway =/ __________________

09-15-2007, 05:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Flash Demon LF Mod + President Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 12,390	Not necessarily the end of the turn. More the end of a movement, so after you move, anything can go through it. For the chanty, though, it can only move, it can't attack something to unfreeze, then move, because it'd only refreeze and end turn. __________________

09-15-2007, 05:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Xiahou Dun The voice of (t)reason Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: England Somerset Taunton Posts: 7,413	No. Units in focus unfocus at the beginning of a move not the end. __________________ Cold as ice cream, but still as sweet.

09-15-2007, 05:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
\| Red Devil \| The Red Grey Iron Hero Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Look Behind You... Posts: 10,365	The way seed programmed the game, any actions that happen "between commands" is counted as it happens at the exact same moment, and ANY status conditions are NOT removed until the automated motion for that action is finished. (aka until you get the boxes to do the next motion or the turn ends) it happens "at the exact same time" even though the game shows visually that the paralysis disappears before the chanty wants to move - the selection process occurs BEFORE they are un-paralyzed YES they always unparalyze at the beginning of the move, but the selection process for the move occurs before the paralysis is undone - and thus its still there for the duration of that selection __________________ .. S3R0SIG

09-15-2007, 05:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
Flash Demon LF Mod + President Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 12,390	They appear to unfocus. However, that's only because the animation of the focused chanty needs to be undone so it can move. The focus stays until the end of SOMETHING being done. __________________

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